VFC 416: Lipo Battery and Acc.

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VFC 416: Lipo Battery and Acc.

Post  Killem on Mon Jul 15, 2013 4:44 pm

I've been reading up on Lipos for my 416 (I just got it) and I wanted to make sure this was all I needed.

Turnigy Balancer/Charger

Turnigy Battery

Is that all I need? Battey and the Charger/Balancer? Do I need a discharger or any other accessories?
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Re: VFC 416: Lipo Battery and Acc.

Post  Seenie on Mon Jul 15, 2013 7:35 pm

Don't discharge your lipos. They need to have a charge on them. Discharging them completely can damage the cells in them.
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Re: VFC 416: Lipo Battery and Acc.

Post  Prophet on Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:39 pm

Also, that charger says it does not include power supply. Most of us like the thunder AC6 or the skycharger Ba6
http://www.hobbypartz.com/thac6smbachw.html?gclid=CKXm0K3wsrgCFazm7Aodaj4ADg

http://www.hobbypartz.com/skychb6chdup.html
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Re: VFC 416: Lipo Battery and Acc.

Post  Killem on Tue Jul 16, 2013 2:57 pm


How difficult is it to change the Tamiya Connector to the Deans? And the battery I'm looking at is small Tamiya anyway. I just want to make sure the charger have the right connector to charge the battery.
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Re: VFC 416: Lipo Battery and Acc.

Post  Slice on Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:20 pm

Lipos don't charge via the "battery" connector (aka Deans, Tamiya, etc), but instead by the special Lipo "balance" connector (looks like a wide flat white plug). If you look at the picture of the battery you posted, it's not the Tamiya connector that it charges by, but the small white plug to the right of the Tamiya connector. The Tamiya connector on that battery is how it would connect to the gun, but not how it would charge.
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Re: VFC 416: Lipo Battery and Acc.

Post  Killem on Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:29 pm

Slice wrote:Lipos don't charge via the "battery" connector (aka Deans, Tamiya, etc), but instead by the special Lipo "balance" connector (looks like a wide flat white plug). If you look at the picture of the battery you posted, it's not the Tamiya connector that it charges by, but the small white plug to the right of the Tamiya connector. The Tamiya connector on that battery is how it would connect to the gun, but not how it would charge.

That's what I thought after reading up on Lipos but wanted to make sure that if I order that charger and battery, once they get here I'll be good to go and won't have to go and buy more adaptors or anything.

EDIT: Actually I was told you need to plug in the charger and the connector.

Which brings me back to the fact that shopping for Lipos is starting to irritate me.

If I buy the [url="http://www.hobbypartz.com/thac6smbachw.html"]Thunder AC6 Charger[/url]

and the [url="http://www.hobbypartz.com/98p-20c-1200-2s1p-2222-saddle.html"]GENS ACE 1200mAH 2s battery[/url]

Then what adapter would I need to charge the battery? I know the charger comes with these adapters: JST, 4mm banana, Tamiya, JR, glow, and alligator clips

(Apparently the Tamiya is male)

I'm extremely confused. All I want to know is what adapter I need to charge the battery.
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Re: VFC 416: Lipo Battery and Acc.

Post  k30 on Wed Jul 17, 2013 4:34 pm

FWIW I have this charger (requires this power supply).

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Re: VFC 416: Lipo Battery and Acc.

Post  Slice on Thu Jul 18, 2013 2:47 am

You don't need an adapter PERIOD to charge your battery. Adapters are for connecting your battery to your gun.



The piece I have circled in green contains all the slots for plugging in LiPos of varying sizes (7.4v lipo is a different connector than a 11.1v lipo for example). That strip appears to contain all sorts of LiPo voltage slots. That strip plugs into the slot on the side of the charger it appears. That charger is honestly way more hardcore than anything I personally use. I have a cheap $30 charger from HK/China that I charge my LiPos with and it works great. But if that's the charger these guys are recommending for you, then roll with it.



The piece I have circled in green on your battery is the connector you connect to your charger for charging your battery. Do NOT attempt to charge your battery through the standard connectors on the battery as this is a good way to fry your LiPo and burn down your home/apartment/etc.

The ONLY thing you will need adapters for is connecting your battery to your gun. For example, the battery pictured has Tamiya connectors; if your gun has Deans connectors, you will need a Deans to Tamiya adapter. It's simple - charge battery through LiPo connector, hook battery to gun via standard connector.
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Re: VFC 416: Lipo Battery and Acc.

Post  Oden on Sun Jul 21, 2013 2:20 am

I don't usually buy adaptors...but when I do

I end up just snipping the old plugs and soldering on new ones



But what Slice says is true, you don't need an adaptor, balancing happens with the tap plug.

The only thing you really need to plug the main connector to the charger for is cycling, fast charging, and discharge/storage.  You theoretically shouldn't need to plug it in for balance charging
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Re: VFC 416: Lipo Battery and Acc.

Post  Killem on Sun Jul 21, 2013 9:01 am

So I bought this battery and it doesn't fit. The sticks are too wide for the compartments. As far as I know I can just return them my question now is which do you think would fit better?

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__28643__Turnigy_nano_tech_1300mah_2S_25_50C_Lipo_AIRSOFT_Pack_US_Warehouse_.html

or

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__28640__Turnigy_nano_tech_1300mah_2S_25_50C_Lipo_AIRSOFT_Pack_US_Warehouse_.html
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Re: VFC 416: Lipo Battery and Acc.

Post  Prophet on Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:12 am

Actually with a good charger you hook up to the balance AND the lead plug. Looks like it comes with tamiya though.
Slice these chargers end up only around 50 and they charge and shut off at the right voltage better than the cheaper ones, they are also settable for a precise trickle charge amperage, I use a low setting for my P* 350 mah batteries. The charger will make batteries live longer, also works for nimh and can even be used to charge motorcycle and car batteries.


These tend to work as buffer tube lipos but it is important to check dimensions. Use a piece of paper folded into a a box of the right length to be sure and remember to allow for wires. Personally I dont like buffer tube lipos as you have limited capacity.
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__37844__Turnigy_nano_tech_1200mAh_2S_25_50C_Lipo_AIRSOFT_Pack.html

this will PROBABLY work for a crane stock. check to be sure.
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__17285__Turnigy_nano_tech_2000mah_2S_15_25C_Lipo_AIRSOFT_Pack.html
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Re: VFC 416: Lipo Battery and Acc.

Post  Killem on Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:33 pm

Prophet wrote:Actually with a good charger you hook up to the balance AND the lead plug. Looks like it comes with tamiya though.
Slice these chargers end up only around 50 and they charge and shut off at the right voltage better than the cheaper ones, they are also settable for a precise trickle charge amperage, I use a low setting for my P* 350 mah batteries. The charger will make batteries live longer, also works for nimh and can even be used to charge motorcycle and car batteries.


These tend to work as buffer tube lipos but it is important to check dimensions. Use a piece of paper folded into a a box of the right length to be sure and remember to allow for wires. Personally I dont like buffer tube lipos as you have limited capacity.
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__37844__Turnigy_nano_tech_1200mAh_2S_25_50C_Lipo_AIRSOFT_Pack.html

this will PROBABLY work for a crane stock. check to be sure.
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__17285__Turnigy_nano_tech_2000mah_2S_15_25C_Lipo_AIRSOFT_Pack.html
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I thought you were supposed to hook up the charging end and the balancer. Thank you.

Actually I bought another battery very similar to that first one. The 2nd one you posted is the one I got. It was too big which sucks because I wanted the 2000mAh. But oh well, I'll use it in my KWA M16.
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Re: VFC 416: Lipo Battery and Acc.

Post  Slice on Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:41 pm

With the 7 different LiPos I've owned I've never once hooked up both balance and lead charger, and they're all going strong after 4 years. Personal experience may vary I guess but strictly charging through the balance connector has never done me wrong.
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Re: VFC 416: Lipo Battery and Acc.

Post  Prophet on Tue Jul 23, 2013 10:21 am

I am sure it will work just fine Jesse, I like my charger mostly for the extra bells and whistles, since it is only 10 or 15 more I think it is worth it. And...you play airsoft? (just kidding)tongue 
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